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on Sandbox Testing and Damage Calculations

  • Objective: Understanding current sandbox status and analyzing damage outputs with activated surges (Arc and Strand).

  • Key Approach: Testing various weapons, specifically focusing on damage outputs in different scenarios.

Weapon Damage Testing

  • Baseline Weapon: Sleeper Simulant vs. Queen Breaker

    • Prediction: Sleeper Simulant vs. Queen Breaker damage outputs

    • Analysis: Sleeper Simulant's damage tested with particle reconstruction and stacking with other debuffs like withering.

    • Result: Queen Breaker's bow outperformed Sleeper in certain conditions.

  • Queen Breaker

    • Characteristics: Three-round burst mode, catalyst with rewind rounds for ammo regeneration.

    • Comparison: Outperformed Sleeper when fully optimized with particle and withering debuffs.

Other Weapon Comparisons

  • Thousand Voices vs. Merciless

    • Observations: Thousand Voices can efficiently apply debuffs; Merciless shows high damage potential with proper procs.

  • Lord of Wolves

    • Performance: Demonstrated high damage output; considered potentially overpowered.

    • Aspect: Performance significantly improved with 'no backup plans'.

Testing on Fusion Rifles and Linear Fusion Rifles

  • Bastion: Achieved significant damage when optimized with particle reconstruction.

  • Simulation: Utilized for damage stacking and testing various synergies.

New Weapon Features and Buffs

  • Tessellation (Fusion Rifle)

    • Features: Voids damage, catalyst for additional projectiles.

    • Performance: Displayed potential in testing scenarios.

  • Delicate Tomb (Fusion Rifle)

    • Changes: Increased damage, hip-fire improvements, and ammo regeneration.

Titan Testing

  • Winter's Bite: Utilized in combination with worm god caress for high melee damage.

  • Storm's Keep Aspect: Enhanced by class abilities, highly effective in testing.

Fitness for Day One Dungeon

  • Recommendation: Utilizing Titans with specific aspects like Storm’s Keep for maximum efficiency in upcoming challenges.

Conclusions and Observations

  • Surge Effects: Significant impact on weapon performance due to Arc and Strand surges.

  • Weapon Balance: Reassessed based on recent tests, showcasing sleeper performance shifts.

  • Future Speculations: Possible disabling of overpowering weapons such as Lord of Wolves might be considered.

Final Remarks

  • Testing Impact: Comprehensive testing resulted in a better understanding of various weapon mechanics and their adjustments.

  • Community Engagement: Active discussion and feedback loop maintained during testing.

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With Sundered Doctrine dropping tomorrow, we decided to damage test some of our top DPS options to see what loadouts/weapons we'll need to be running!

Sleeper Simulant

Sleeper Simulant / Particle Reconstruction / Withering Gaze

The Queenbreaker (Marksman) / Particle Reconstruction

The Queenbreaker (Combat) / Particle Reconstruction

1K Voices / Particle Reconstruction / Ember of Ashes & Eruption

Merciless / Particle Reconstruction

Merciless / Particle Reconstruction / Impetus

Lord of Wolves / Ember of Ashes & Eruption

Lord of Wolves / No Backup Plans

Euphony / Particle Reconstruction / Unraveling Orbs / Horde Shuttle / Thread of Evolution

Euphony / Swarmers / Particle Reconstruction / Unraveling Orbs / Horde Shuttle / Thread of Evolution

Arbalest / Particle Reconstruction

Scatter Signal / Enhanced Controlled Burst / Particle Reconstruction / Unraveling Orbs / Horde Shuttle

Scatter Signal / Enhanced Controlled Burst / Enhanced Overflow / Particle Reconstruction / Unraveling Orbs / Horde Shuttle

Bastion / Particle Reconstruction

Scintillation / Enhanced Surrounded / Enhanced Rewind Rounds / Particle Reconstruction / Unraveling Orbs / Horde Shuttle

Mistral Lift / Withering Gaze / High Ground / Particle Reconstruction / Volatile Marksman

Telesto / Particle Reconstruction

Delicate Tomb / Particle Reconstruction

Lorentz Driver / Particle Reconstruction

Vex Mythoclast / Particle Reconstruction

Cloudstrike / Storm's Keep

Thunderlord / Actium War Rig / Flashover

The Queenbreaker (Marksman) / Storm's Keep / Particle Reconstruction / Flashover

The Queenbreaker (Combat) / Storm's Keep / Particle Reconstruction / Flashover

Watchful Eye / Actium War Rig / Enhanced Overflow / Enhanced Surrounded / Flashover

D.A.R.C.I. / Storm's Keep / Flashover

Retrofit / Actium War Rig / Enhanced FTTC / Enhanced Target Lock / Storm's Keep / Volatile Marksman

Winterbite / Wormgod Caress / Banner of War / No Bell

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Sandbox Testing and Damage Analysis

all right I need people to join me and someone with a checkpoint for Templar we're going to be here for a hot second but we're going to walk away with knowledge hopefully I want us to walk away understanding where we are in the sandbox right now here's the thing something we're going to have to take note of today too guys for the damage test currently right now bung has acknowledged too that they accidentally activated surges again so we do have an arc surge in a strand surge so the numbers you're going to see on the screen we're going to have to actually change those since we have these surges being active so they will differ we'll run the math we'll say the number and go from there okay let's get an idea where what we're looking at and I think a good Baseline should be sleeper our first eggplant bet which one would do more damage sleeper or queen breaker there we go prediction activated all right chat let's take a look here your sleeper I don't think we need to even test this with the base damage I think we need to just go balls deep and immediately go particle reconstruction might doing ring orbs too some of our strand weapons that's an easy one to get proed as well and we can even do H shuttle all right now from what I've been told guys about particle and again got to do some other testing on it but I'm being told is a 25% debuff it will stack with things like weakening it can stack with things like divinity uh what it won't stack with it at least what we've seen some of the testing it won't stack with things like tether or tractor and maybe that's because it's just reaching a a cap point right regardless though we're not going to be double stacking debuffs or anything like that today all I want to do is get in here and take a look at just particle by itself with the weapon itself right deal the sustained damage with Fusion rifles or linear Fusion rifles partially refills the magazine from observes and grants them bonus damage for a short duration against that Target all right so let's take a look three 2 1 C out at 165k let's good man chunky man chunky chunky 1.2 all right the question I have now is I'm going to try to apply the debuff with another Fusion rifle and then swap the sleeper because if I remember correctly particle because a fusion rifle has multiple shots at once right it's burst you'll get the full Stacks immediately somebody correct me if I'm wrong here 3 2 two 1 okay so that actually stacked chat it's doing 189,000 damage right now because of withering and also um particle so it is stacking pretty nice kind of makes it valuable to have a withering Fusion rifle now you're immediately getting the full stacks of the debuff from particle and you're also getting withering now it's only 1.3 million damage keep in mind I lost the shot because of the time it takes to proc the debuff and everything I just wanted to look at it though and just see how how that plays out it's not necessarily something that I'm going to do for every linear Fusion rifle I just wanted to see it but it works and it's something that Stacks it's pretty nice uh next weapon this is now we're going to do queen breaker right now guys and queen breaker's bow just got a ton of reworks it's combat science is now my three round burst it starts off at 500 charge time it goes down to 300 it's very very fast but most notably it's got a catalyst now and its Catalyst allows it it has got rewind rounds so it allows it to get ammo back on top of what particle is already doing so keep in mind particles also feeding ammo back into the weapon as it says right here it partially refills the magazine from reserves when you dealing sustained damage all right so Chad we're going to we're going to start with Queen breaker right now in his base form with just Marksman okay and then we'll move to um combat sites the only difference is is that we do have Arc Searchers we're going to take the 25% out three two one 1368 okay so that was with the time the the single shot mode right so 1368 they got the 25% 1, 95,3 so it's doing Less in his three round burst mode but let let me let me take a look at it in this three round burst mode so hold reload now we're in our three round burst mode let's try this again sleeper still winning barely dude sleeper's winning like by barely 20,000 damage it's close man it's so close two one the good thing about being a a burst fire linear here is that I'm able to get the debuff the full debuff on faster ooh fellas that rewind Round Here is so nice man for a for a three round burst weapon rewind rounds is nuts it's going to be close guys it's going to be close it just smoked sleeper it just smoked sleeper 1, 293,2mb that has never happened we have never had a situation where sleeper just got outperformed by Queen breaker's bow of all things no sleeper was 1.3 million damage because I gave it I gave it withering gaze I just wanted to see if withering gaze would stack with particle and in dust if if I was to do withering gaze for sleeper I mean for for Queen breaker's bow it would outperform the damage as well I wanted to just see if it would work it's concluded that it does work which is great and we'll need to also like you know narrow down exactly which weakening effects do stack here but the per the the point is is that at base here Queen breaker especially with particles outperforming sleeper and you got to understand a huge reason for this is because sleeper sleeper is a single shot what particle is wanting you to do is it's the sustain damage so burst fire linear you're going to see this burst fire linear are going to pull ahead because when you have that burst fire you're applying multiple Stacks at once in a single shot therefore reaching that maximum stack of 25% more damage and with cream breaker having combat sides here the three round burst mode you're just reaching that debuff faster Queen is is greater than sleep protect the I'm not no listen again three round bursts are good but they're harder to manage and you may be in a situation at some point in the future where you're trying to land you know three crits on a tiny crit spot and that's where Queen breaker will struggle amongst other uh burst fire linear this is the first man I can't believe it let's go ahead and do the next one will 1,000 voices beat merciless this one's going to be interesting this one's this one's going to be kind of interesting cuz cuz I think 1K voices will immediately apply in the debuff let's go ahead and um see 1,000 voices cuz keep in mind 1,000 voices part see particle reconstruction in some ways is even better than was before it's not the 40% debuff but it's the the ability to to partially refill your magazine that's pretty nice guys all right we can check solar fragments um yeah I'm going to put on I don't even have it on but I'll throw on a few things I'll entertain it I'll put put on em of ases we'll do eruption three two damn I didn't Auto reload anything oh there it goes so that just seems like it's going to be the luck of of the draw on that one it only Auto reloads one round I thought I that a complete chance that's still good guys dude that's still good Fellas 1.93 that's not there's no surges here that's still good I'm impressed still good dude still good man okay now let's take dearo mercilus I'm going to show mercus in its base form then we're going to proc impetus of course makes that weapon absolutely naughty 3 two 1 guard down I died cuz not Mark for negation oh it's The Relic kills us I'm sorry no we're good we're good 1,1 58,300 God that's just that base dude that's not even with infus proct this thing's about to shred you missed the CIS the first few shots d man I'm going to let you think about that for a second brother as they pay to win subscri here I'm going to let you think about that think about the weapon that I'm using pop three oh dude can you guys chill 3 2 1 that was pretty hot pretty hot I actually think it could be better uh when you guys bring the well up there just don't worry about you don't have to you're killing all the ads so just pop it next to the pillar good God D I think we can get even higher I think we potentially get 1.5 million damage hold on chat mods don't pay out yet I'll give it one more go one more go I don't think I have anything that can beat mercilus try Lord of wolves Lord of wolves is going to beat this you guys are fullish dude 3 2 1 goard that's best I can do there all right so the number that we did a second ago 145 five is our best number we'll leave it at that okay all right people are saying so get a payout by the way folks are saying um that Lord of wolves is somehow doing a tremendous amount of damage when shooting from the hip let's get a bet which one will do more damage merciless or Lord of wolves hold on one second guys oh yeah that's right hold on Lord of wolves here increase range reduce base damage remove accuracy penalties from standard fire mode release the Wolves now Triggers on hip fire instead of special reload fires full auto gra increases damage and rate of fire and and redu reduces accuracy and range the catalst reload speed and stability boosts are now built in when release wolves is active dealing damage to Target scorches them when aiming out sights defeating targets spread Scorch to nearby commands what the hell and this is doing more damage the merciless do whatever what the just happened how did everybody just die what in the world is going on what oh that busted that getting disabled Friday if it ain't already dis disabled that's crazy man no I I don't even have no backup plans on or anything imagine we had no backup plans I'm about to go get on Titan in just a moment hold on all right pop it 3 2 1 oh my God is throwing The Scorch in there too like it even needs that holy hell my god dude we should have been running around with Lord of wolves all day um I'm going to go swap to I'm going to go swap to my my Titan real quick I'm just curious what it could pull off with Titan and no backa plants this is De guys this is definitely must th% going to be disabled I put that on Chad we're going to spice things up with no backup plans okay yeah dude it's kind of crazy man we're supposed to be in a fusion rifle meta right now and everyone's just going to be like uh yeah screw that I'm just going to use a shotgun so again for those that are not familiar no backup plans actually gives us a huge buff what is it like 35% more damage for our shotguns chat I love it on the most recent void shotgun slers Fang all right it's it's almost guaranteed it could break 2 million damage but let's see all right 3 two 1 the only difference here is I'm not on solar like I was a second ago with like ashes and stuff no no backup is is better for shotguns it's literally meant for shotguns 1.9 million damage no good no good get a killed to activate the perk what what park are you guys talking about it's while you have avoid overshield shotguns deal additional damage and shotgun final BL refresh the overshield that's not 35% at all while you have avoid overshield shotguns deal additional damage 3 could get up a little more damage I I don't know if want to test that or not 2, 69 okay that's a tremendous amount of damage everybody is everybody understanding no backup plans here let's let's take a look hold on hold on let's take a look this whole just got derailed cuz you just wanted to look at Lord of wolves and then you wanted me to test a bunch of out for it it's going to get disabled anyways all right get break it 65,000 17,000 my Bry much 70,000 70,000 70,000 so Chad if it was a 35% damage buff it definitely should be doing a lot more than that though so therefore it's not stacking with well I think it's just giving us it's just taking precedence over the other so lord of the Wolves is doing over 2 million damage it's kind of crazy I do think it's going to get disabled but who knows man we'll see what happens man I was we already had thumbnail pre-made with like merciless all blown up real big and was going to be like that's right merciless is the now we got to Lord of wolves on that thing now all right let's check let's get focused up let's get back on track here okay everybody we're going to do euphony right now and I am going to I'm going to full send eany we're going to do uh thread of evolution euphony we're also going to be doing um unraveling we'll have H shuttle and particle reconstruction 3 2 1 guard down actually pretty nice pretty nice all that's second do I tried to with h shut 78765 4 yeah someone's going to be like cross what about your spin Stacks listen I'm not going to jump through all those SS okay we'll going to roll with that we might do it he doesn't have the boots on either oh that's a good point that's a good point you ready to do it 3 2 one okay all right boys best we can do man run strand class got swimmers on all the bells and whistles let's take the 25% away from this I know we've got some threading damage from our grenade that's fine we'll keep it in 1 million 33884 so adjust it that's 827,000 7 okay all right hell of a lot better what I was doing last week just saying I'm going to pull out some other weapons here some that shouldn't be no surprise that are going to do kind of P we're going to do Aris real quick uh is aress not or did it immediately apply the debuff chat chat was particle working with Arbus just now 489,000 582 I don't I don't even think it's working with it breing it up yeah all right confirm right here chat aralis is not working with particle it's not selfing it obviously I can proc it with another Fusion rifle but that's not the point the point is see you know having the ability to self rocket yourself all right moving on scatter signal also Bastion scatter signal we have to adjust somebody that's get an egpl bet will Bastion break 1 million damage oh this is especially nice cuz we got the scram mods oh damn yeah I've got the stram mods on we're we're throwing them on 868 250 all right take it out the 25% adjusted 694,000 not bad I can't compare everything to merciless guys right could you could you juice uh scatter signal with overflow I can't of which I didn't do a second ago a great Point okay so for this one put the um put the well right here and then I'm going to I'm going to juice this real quick get ready to do it hold on get the well down 3 2 1 is that unraveling rounds too that's so nice beautiful 1 million 8307 take out the 25% 86,4 that's nice that's cooking man scatter is really really good all right let's take a look at basan uh chaper bassan again it intrinsically can stun unstopable Champions it rapidly fires three spreads um which means it's going to get those it should be getting those stacks of partical even faster but after successful melee hit this weapon gains increased damage reduced charge time and improve reload speed for a short duration hitting a target with most of the pellets and a burst increases melee damage for a short duration so like trench barrel for for a fusion rifle I'm going to I'm going to do so same spot here except I'm going to do the melee hit on an ad or something that all right 3 2 1 God damn that was delayed I was about to pop I started sneezing that's started what guardi down started sneezing oh okay hey I actually feel like it can be a little bit better than that that's so impressive though guys Queen Breakers Catalyst let's go that's so impressive I'm happy with that fellas I'll take it 1 million with Bastion completely fine with that let us move on I'm going to do culation keep doing the well in the same spot and I'm I'm going to keep all the ads up I'm going to proc simulation for this damn this put down dude wow Chad did we lose surrounded at all I think we did I know surrounded situation I just wanted to take a look at it we do have seres so we have to take an account for the numbers here so number adjusted here oh my God though even number adjust it 1, 367,000 the the refilling of the magazine right there we were able to essentially sit there and just blow our load non-stop it's really really good and with it being an Adaptive burst that mean that three round burst linear you're reaching those those Max stacks of particle faster getting that full uh debuff quicker and of course by Stinger that was really nice really really nice all right let me do this roll right here I'm going to do High Ground put me up on the pillar I'm going to do withering as well the benefit here chat is that withering gaze is stacking with particle that's nice not necessary but nice oh my God oh my God that was nuts this is no adjusted by the way no adjustment to the numbers here 1.25 2 dude that's impressive 1.25 2567 not adjusted so it came in less assimilation but that's because that my my damage perk gear is not higher you know I've only got high ground I wish I had a b switch withering roll but I don't now we had volatile being proed there and that's from volatile Marksman rapid void weapon Precision hits rapid void weapon fin BL Grant volatile rounds and I actually think volatile was helping us with particle reconstruction to where we never had to reload and of course the stacking capabilities from particle and also um withering they're pretty nice man if you have a with in ban switch role see there's some conflict with that too cuz you're in a situation where it's like by the time you proc ban switch you would immediately be doing damage it's like are you going to wait that second you know what I mean that's kind of the idea of me using High Ground right here it's it's comparable I would say it's definitely comparable and of course you got the the debuff there from withering which could help your other teammates pretty nice pretty nice I mean what I'm saying with that is even though culation that's beating it on paper with surround it one that's super situational right and two with the volatile there with Vice stinger and and also particle I just we never had to reload right there that's really good I feel like we need to look at Testo now um now teso guys teso got all kinds of changes done the big thing is it's catless essentially opens up after activating horer pulse multiple times press R to cause a rain of projectiles on your next direct hits with this weapon again Harbinger multi kills and void damage immediately reloads this weapon from reserves and then we'll also be taking advantage of um Vol marman and particle I don't know I this oh yes oh yes there we go what I like about the super shot guys look at it last you just hit it it's primed it's ready it says right there primed done good activated ready no timer no nothing oh my god dude look man it may not be the most damage or anything but it's cool to look at cool to look at 7,52 nice nice um the delegate tomb right here they gave it a 100% increase in damage fires horizontal spread when shot the hip find and blows his weapon have a chance to generate on traces powerful F and opposing Guardians always generate on traces collecting an on Trace partially reloads the magazine from reserves I need to just make an on I trace then I'll actually put up a um onx Sentry behind me we'll make some adjustments on the numbers take out the surge oh my God what a jump dude what a jump that's uh so 73,8 871 damage Del it's nice should we look at Lawrence driver yeah probably so Lawrence mainly got an ease of use buff and it's and especially when it comes to its ammo economy all right break the shield get the recoil on this all right that's it 881 th000 H okay again the main thing about the buff here for Lawrence driver guys is that it's going to have more ease of use it's going to have more ammo regeneration which is the big thing so again not necessarily something that you may consider for DPS but for running gun and GMS and whatnot you can definitely take advantage of it and it's void so therefore you've got void synergies like volenti marksmen and whatever else that you can uh you can synergize with chat the vex me the classes numbers are not going to be like super crazy or anything but keep in mind it's it's a primary weapon right I'll get the stacks going with it and then or applying particle and then swap the linear mid damage face I should be maximum debuff there we go there we go oh my God it's juice baby all it's the primary weapon everybody so keep that in mind 559 okay now let's move on to our Titan class so for Titan we're going to be testing out winter bites we're also going to be testing out the new aspect with Cloud strike and we're also going to be testing out at Le been it I actually think I don't think there's anything else we need to look at all right Chad we're going to be taking advantage of the new aspect storms keep cast your class ability to Grant modern amount of B charge and stacks to you in nearby allies while behind your barricade you and allies gain stack to B charge over time and your weapons can discharge Max stacks of B charge I'm going to try this with clown stripy we're going to try with thunderlord guard down okay let's take a look guys again we got the adjust of damage on this take out the 25% from the sege wow that's actually oh they said uh the flashover artifact perk H where lightning bolts do more damage damn that is actually insane that's 1,10,000 damage adjusted I mean the fact that we're doing we're clearing 1 million damage with Cloud strike oh that's wild and that's all being carried by the B charge thing but I mean again that's that's like a ton of different weapons what that tells me is that 1,000% you need to have a Titan for the day one dungeon I I would think for the bulk charges and it seems like they more frequency so that if I'm understanding this correctly chat the higher the rate of fire weapon the better for something like this correct so thunderlord might actually shred like thunderlord actum War Rick yeah we're Amplified chatsy pretty impressive let's take a look guys again got to adjust got to take out the 25% oh my God are we actually about to be truly in a freaking thunderlord meta adjusted 1 million 292,000 all right get ready pop it three two one oh my God all right so we're going to look at it right here single fire form pretty nice wait why is Queen Breer chunking like that what the hell Queen breaker is doing more damage than sleeper now was the three shot that did more than sleeper right I think what are the chances we get a surge in in the day one dungeon we won't you you won right prob up put out God that puts out dude all right let's take the 25% away let's take a look dude this this aspect is nuts sky all right Queen breaker's bow 1,590 286 and that's with the storm's keep aspect um what was the other weapon oh yeah the machine gun let me take a look at this machine gun chat chat we're going to be looking at this machine gun because this one is an aggressive frame machine gun kind of a unique case here all right get ready to pop it 3 2 1 around and stand all right 1484 953 all right let's take out the uh 25% still over a million man 1,187 to that's pretty hot dude got old charge is so good man chat Darcy got a host of different changes to it it got a buff he got some other stuff too the main thing about Darcy is that it's a now a support weapon for other legendary sniper rifles so what gallon horn is to Legendary rocket launchers Darcy is that for legendary sniper rifles all right charge me up okay all right baby show me what you got 1 2 3 1 653 take out the 25% guys 985 322 damage from Darcy Cloud strike clears it GG's boys pay out the cloud strike Believers I'm going to try this I'm going to try retrofit reason why I'm going to try retrofit is because it's a rapid fire weapon not only is it a rapid fire weapon a void weapon so then we're going to have I'll have volatile Marksman on here so we're trying that and uh we we'll see what happens oh my God got the bolt charge I get no damage adjustment on this one cuz there's no surges here for for this void weapon 1.26 n 150 that's pretty solid guys pretty solid Thunder Lord was 1292 so it's just under thunderlord all right so grab worm God chat for those not familiar with worm God burning fist defeating a target with a melee or a finisher grants escalating melee damage which is C over time higher levels of burning fist Grant increase weapon damage we're going to pair this right now with um our glaive winter bite winter bite to me does the most damage amongst glaes just simply because I mean that's that's what it's built for you hold ammo you do more damage we used to mess around with it a while back you know I might have been able to get a no Bell in there God dog get man 1.7 million good Lord I'm going to try to sprinkle another no Bell buff into that damn brother I did psycho in another no I think I did dude I got too many we got too many Buffs on screen a bun we need to be able to put more I need I need to I need to be able to customize m UI I need 12 Buffs on this screen I don't even want to see my screen anymore I just need to see every buff I 1.7 that's the number we got that's the best number you're going to get guys probably actually better I feel like it can be better than that the point is you're able to do 1.7 million damage winter bites that's nuts and keep in mind hold on keep in mind it's it's a couple things that are at play here we've got no Bell shout out to uh path effect effect St we've got um glaes are now doing they got a ton of different Buffs but the big one for something like winter bites is um this one right here final hits of the melee combo deals double damage and you you could tell when you're doing it because it not just shows a bigger number but it does like the actual animation it makes like a noise too when you when you successfully do it I'm trying to get the gameplay looped down I mean we got we've got ban of War we've got all these little things we got worm God caress what I what I was trying to do is proc no Bell in the middle of it so I proc no Bell I block and then continue my rotation I was waiting the 5 seconds and then end block again and so yeah it's good man it's good all right boys that's it for me is there anything else we needed to check that's going to be one thick ass video uh to the Gin that jumped here and helped me test it today thank you so much I appreciate y'all we will have this damage cut up the guys are going to be working on this all night long this is like 4 hours of damage testing they're going to hate us but it's necessary we needed this information man we needed the information slap that like button like your mama told you right

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